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folifan19
Pujols
December 08, 2011 at 07:14PM View BBCode
Signs with the Angels for 10 years. Signing a guy who is 32 for 10 years? I guess they figure Bud Man is going to keep the DH awhile longer.
dirtdevil
(10 years for a 32 year old is nuts. no matter who he is.)
December 08, 2011 at 07:58PM View BBCode
the DH isn't going anywhere. except to the NL, god willing.(10 years for a 32 year old is nuts. no matter who he is.)
blumer5
December 08, 2011 at 08:06PM View BBCode
Its all about risk analysis. Is he going to play at his past skill level for 6 or 7 more years, and are those years worth him not being great, but still making a TON of money for the other 3 or 4 years. Obviously LA thinks its worth it. As a rangers fan, i am scared of LA with what they are doing with they guys they are picking up.
tworoosters
That's quite the rotation they have now with Wilson, Santana, Haren and Weaver .
December 08, 2011 at 08:23PM View BBCode
They also signed CJ Wilson for 5 years at a reported $77.5 million .That's quite the rotation they have now with Wilson, Santana, Haren and Weaver .
Bone-Scorpion
[Edited on 12-8-2011 by Bone-Scorpion]
December 08, 2011 at 08:48PM View BBCode
They are probably going to try and dump Vernon Wells to free up some salary. A lot of experts say they will trade Ervin Santana, but I would keep the rotation. Thats one hell of a rotation. Probably have to package Trumbo with Wells to get somebody to take Wells but somebody is going to be an odd man out.[Edited on 12-8-2011 by Bone-Scorpion]
Yankees102
So now what do the Cards do? Put Berkman at 1B and Allen Craig in RF?
December 09, 2011 at 01:07AM View formatted
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Please. Forget salary. They should dump Vernon Wells to dump Vernon Wells. What I would like to know is where do they put Trumbo, if not another team?
So now what do the Cards do? Put Berkman at 1B and Allen Craig in RF?
cubfan531
I believe that was always the contingency plan if Pujols left.
December 09, 2011 at 04:45AM View BBCode
Originally posted by Yankees102
Please. Forget salary. They should dump Vernon Wells to dump Vernon Wells. What I would like to know is where do they put Trumbo, if not another team?
So now what do the Cards do? Put Berkman at 1B and Allen Craig in RF?
I believe that was always the contingency plan if Pujols left.
tm4559
ah. for some reason, i have seen way more Angels spring training games than is good for anyone. and if they should dump anybody, it is crater faced bobby abreu. because he is freaking done.
March 27, 2012 at 03:48PM View BBCode
Originally posted by Bone-Scorpion
They are probably going to try and dump Vernon Wells to free up some salary. A lot of experts say they will trade Ervin Santana, but I would keep the rotation. Thats one hell of a rotation. Probably have to package Trumbo with Wells to get somebody to take Wells but somebody is going to be an odd man out.
[Edited on 12-8-2011 by Bone-Scorpion]
ah. for some reason, i have seen way more Angels spring training games than is good for anyone. and if they should dump anybody, it is crater faced bobby abreu. because he is freaking done.
folifan19
March 27, 2012 at 05:35PM View BBCode
I thought Bobby jumpped the shark years ago, but I was wrong. I just looked him up on baseball-ref. He has been a quietly productive player, up till last season ofcourse...
tm4559
March 27, 2012 at 06:33PM View BBCode
they put up with him last season. he is like nick johnson, which is to say, all he could do really is draw a walk and hit singles and a some doubles . he can probably still outdo, i don't know. chone figgins. but wow. that is no recommendation. i do not believe the Pirates would take him at this point.
dirtdevil
[Edited on 3-27-2012 by dirtdevil]
March 27, 2012 at 08:46PM View BBCode
the pirates will take anyone, so long as they do not have to pay them.[Edited on 3-27-2012 by dirtdevil]
folifan19
March 28, 2012 at 05:32PM View BBCode
They're paying "Left Eye" Burnett aren't they? Probably over paying, the only way to get a FA to come to Pittsburgh.
tm4559
March 28, 2012 at 06:50PM View BBCode
it wasn't a free agent. the yankees are paying a lot of the salary.
Yankees102
And yes. We got 2 mid level prospects in return for AJ and cash.
March 28, 2012 at 06:53PM View BBCode
I'm just glad he's gone.And yes. We got 2 mid level prospects in return for AJ and cash.
barterer2002
1. He doesn't play (or at least didn't) against tough lefties. My everlasting memory of him will be sitting on the bench resting because Randy Johnson was pitching. It was opening day.
2. He's a Dave Magadan type of hitter. One who would prefer to draw a walk with a runner on third than hit a ground ball to get him home if it results in an out.
March 28, 2012 at 08:31PM View BBCode
Bobby A has always been overrated. He's one of those guys who puts up stats and makes people believe that he's good but he does all those little things that mark him as a loser.1. He doesn't play (or at least didn't) against tough lefties. My everlasting memory of him will be sitting on the bench resting because Randy Johnson was pitching. It was opening day.
2. He's a Dave Magadan type of hitter. One who would prefer to draw a walk with a runner on third than hit a ground ball to get him home if it results in an out.
tm4559
March 28, 2012 at 08:51PM View BBCode
he singlehandedly got chone figgins all that money by convincing him not to swing at the ball when he was with the angels bryan. chone drew all them walks, and then seattle gave him all that coin, because their GM read Moneyball five years after everyone else, and said, "hey obp!!!!" so Bobby Abreu does have that going for him. he socked it to the Seattle Mariners, and good.
tworoosters
I'm no huge fan of Abreu but:
1) he's played over 150 games a year every year except 2011, so either there aren't many tough lefties out there or you aren't really giving him credit.
2) Abreu's career OPS is .878, and his OPS+ is 129, yes some of that ios due to his crazy OBP but his slugging percentage is still .485. Magadan is .767 and .377 so I think that comparison is, well, not very accurate.
As for the "rather walk than hit a ground ball" he's had 8 seasons of 100 RBI or more, which I doubt he got by walking.
March 28, 2012 at 11:06PM View BBCode
Originally posted by barterer2002
Bobby A has always been overrated. He's one of those guys who puts up stats and makes people believe that he's good but he does all those little things that mark him as a loser.
1. He doesn't play (or at least didn't) against tough lefties. My everlasting memory of him will be sitting on the bench resting because Randy Johnson was pitching. It was opening day.
2. He's a Dave Magadan type of hitter. One who would prefer to draw a walk with a runner on third than hit a ground ball to get him home if it results in an out.
I'm no huge fan of Abreu but:
1) he's played over 150 games a year every year except 2011, so either there aren't many tough lefties out there or you aren't really giving him credit.
2) Abreu's career OPS is .878, and his OPS+ is 129, yes some of that ios due to his crazy OBP but his slugging percentage is still .485. Magadan is .767 and .377 so I think that comparison is, well, not very accurate.
As for the "rather walk than hit a ground ball" he's had 8 seasons of 100 RBI or more, which I doubt he got by walking.
thatrogue
March 28, 2012 at 11:19PM View BBCode
Philly fans despise their own players with a passion most fans reserve for the opposition.
tm4559
yes, i wasn't talking about past performance. i was watching the spring training games. abreu is finished, done.
March 29, 2012 at 01:44PM View BBCode
Originally posted by tworoosters
I'm no huge fan of Abreu but:
1) he's played over 150 games a year every year except 2011, so either there aren't many tough lefties out there or you aren't really giving him credit.
2) Abreu's career OPS is .878, and his OPS+ is 129, yes some of that ios due to his crazy OBP but his slugging percentage is still .485. Magadan is .767 and .377 so I think that comparison is, well, not very accurate.
As for the "rather walk than hit a ground ball" he's had 8 seasons of 100 RBI or more, which I doubt he got by walking.
yes, i wasn't talking about past performance. i was watching the spring training games. abreu is finished, done.
barterer2002
March 29, 2012 at 04:53PM View BBCode
See Rogue, you're wrong. We don't despise our own players, we despise players who don't put out the effort. Taking off opening day to rest because Randy Johnson was on the mound is an example. You're the same type of soundbite person who insisted that Rich Kotite was a good coach in Philly until he went to the Jets and stunk there as well. (not that I'm an Eagles fan except in Shep's mind-just an example of the mindless thought process people go through about Philly).
folifan19
March 29, 2012 at 05:36PM View BBCode
You people booed Santa Claus for Pete's sake. Veteran's Stadium had a jail in it! Philly fans are miscreants. And since I know you're a Steeler fan, I count you an exception.:)
dirtdevil
March 29, 2012 at 06:23PM View BBCode
rich kotite. ha. i had completely forgotten that guy existed.
barterer2002
This is typical lazy ass reporting. Just rehash the half truths and assume you know what happened. Tell me foli. What do you know about the incident in question? (before you look it up that is?) Do you know any specifics or are you just being a good Skip Bayless clone and not bothering with facts when a 2 second sound bite will do?
March 29, 2012 at 10:54PM View BBCode
Originally posted by folifan19
You people booed Santa Claus for Pete's sake.
This is typical lazy ass reporting. Just rehash the half truths and assume you know what happened. Tell me foli. What do you know about the incident in question? (before you look it up that is?) Do you know any specifics or are you just being a good Skip Bayless clone and not bothering with facts when a 2 second sound bite will do?
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