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shep1582
tarkenton was a good QB, but I'll name the better ones, in no particular order:
Staubach, Unitas, Griese, Stabler, Dawson, Jurgenson, Meredith, (that's just his peers), Baugh, Graham, Layne, Montana, Elway, Marino, Moon, Aikman, Frave, Manning, Brady, Kelly...
the only list he belongs on is "punkass biotches I'd like to punch in the face".
March 24, 2010 at 07:31PM View BBCode
this list is as stupid as the 1000 best baseball players that guy posted about a year ago.tarkenton was a good QB, but I'll name the better ones, in no particular order:
Staubach, Unitas, Griese, Stabler, Dawson, Jurgenson, Meredith, (that's just his peers), Baugh, Graham, Layne, Montana, Elway, Marino, Moon, Aikman, Frave, Manning, Brady, Kelly...
the only list he belongs on is "punkass biotches I'd like to punch in the face".
barterer2002
March 24, 2010 at 07:41PM View BBCode
I like Big Earl Tim but I don't know that I'd take him over any of the 5 listed (those who don't know history would say Van Buran of course and they may be right)
shep1582
I'd love to see Jim "wifebeater" brown in the modern era. he wouldn't be the same dominant guy he was when d-linemen weighed 230 lbs.
and jerry rice sux.
[Edited on 3/24/2010 by shep1582]
March 24, 2010 at 07:51PM View BBCode
earl was jim brown playing against real football players.I'd love to see Jim "wifebeater" brown in the modern era. he wouldn't be the same dominant guy he was when d-linemen weighed 230 lbs.
and jerry rice sux.
[Edited on 3/24/2010 by shep1582]
FuriousGiorge
March 24, 2010 at 07:54PM View BBCode
Sometimes you have interesting things to say, and sometimes every thread you contribute to immediately becomes 1000x stupider. Can you guess which one this is?
shep1582
can you guess which threads those are?
(hint: all of them)
March 24, 2010 at 08:19PM View BBCode
every thread you "contribute" to becomes one in which I have to skip over posts.can you guess which threads those are?
(hint: all of them)
sycophantman
March 24, 2010 at 08:33PM View BBCode
I think the stupidest thing about the 1000 best players ever thread, if I'm remembering correctly, is that he then posted the entire list and tried to debate the merits of all of them.
happy
I mean, what would the defense for that be?
Or how about this: Junior Seau and Derrek Brooks make the list. But not Butkis.
or... Brooks > Ray Lewis...???
I mean, if I made this metric, I would look at the list and say "oh. well nevermind."
March 24, 2010 at 08:33PM View BBCode
Marshall Faulk, greatest RB ever.I mean, what would the defense for that be?
Or how about this: Junior Seau and Derrek Brooks make the list. But not Butkis.
or... Brooks > Ray Lewis...???
I mean, if I made this metric, I would look at the list and say "oh. well nevermind."
sycophantman
(Win)
March 24, 2010 at 08:34PM View BBCode
God tells me that Walter Payton is the best player ever, and who are you to say my God is wrong?(Win)
happy
"I am making a wrong post, but probably one that will warrant a response."
"I changed my mind, I dont want you to respond."
March 24, 2010 at 08:35PM View BBCode
Originally posted by shep1582
earl was jim brown playing against real football players.
I'd love to see Jim "wifebeater" brown in the modern era. he wouldn't be the same dominant guy he was when d-linemen weighed 230 lbs.
"I am making a wrong post, but probably one that will warrant a response."
and jerry rice sux.
"I changed my mind, I dont want you to respond."
happy
christians dont care about god. Everyone has a god. Thats why they want to know what *jesus* would do.
March 24, 2010 at 08:36PM View BBCode
Originally posted by sycophantman
God tells me that Walter Payton is the best player ever, and who are you to say my God is wrong?
(Win)
christians dont care about god. Everyone has a god. Thats why they want to know what *jesus* would do.
sycophantman
March 24, 2010 at 08:37PM View BBCode
My god is an empty can of pringles I've drawn a second moustache upon, I call him Carl.
FuriousGiorge
March 24, 2010 at 08:47PM View BBCode
Your God is a false idol. That's what my God tells me, a can of Pringles with a Van Dyke drawn on it.
shep1582
jerry rice is a tool.
God jokes are the last bastion of the myopic.
March 24, 2010 at 08:47PM View BBCode
jim brown couldn't carry earl's equipment bag.jerry rice is a tool.
God jokes are the last bastion of the myopic.
Tyles
March 24, 2010 at 08:54PM View BBCode
Speaking in mindless platitudes is the fortified compound of the David Koresh-level batshit insane
shep1582
what, the OGL has become boring without me?
I feel the love, but I ain't going back there except to flame Hussein.
March 24, 2010 at 09:02PM View BBCode
I'm just thankful that I'm not you.what, the OGL has become boring without me?
I feel the love, but I ain't going back there except to flame Hussein.
Tyles
From the other thread:
Tim Tebow: Better than Warren Moon.
March 24, 2010 at 09:33PM View BBCode
Also, there is this:Originally posted by shep1582
Tebow HAS to be better than Jason Campbell, or anyone the Seahonks have ever had.
From the other thread:
Originally posted by shep1582
tarkenton was a good QB, but I'll name the better ones, in no particular order:
Staubach, Unitas, Griese, Stabler, Dawson, Jurgenson, Meredith, (that's just his peers), Baugh, Graham, Layne, Montana, Elway, Marino, Moon, Aikman, Frave, Manning, Brady, Kelly...
Tim Tebow: Better than Warren Moon.
Hamilton2
March 24, 2010 at 09:48PM View BBCode
Nice list, Bryan. I debated between Woodson and Lane for my DB selection.
cowboymatt43
So, back on topic, I want to hear someone make a case for Reggie White being the best player ever. Even if you don't think he was, make a case for him.
[Edited on 3-24-2010 by cowboymatt43]
March 24, 2010 at 10:19PM View formatted
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@shep...Rice may be a tool but you must be completely off your rocker if you think that he sucked. He was the best WR ever, by quite a margin. Also, Tarkenton's numbers were quite good. If you go back and look at them, especially when compared to guys who played when he did, you'll see just how good they are. Like someone has already said, just because the guy has become completely a nutjob in his old age doesn't change the fact that he was a great player. And speaking of looking at stats, have you looked at Jason Campbell's? In each of his four seasons he's thrown more TDs than the last and in each of his four seasons he's thrown more TDs than INTs. That's at least average by most people's standards. His QB rating has improved every season as well, up to 86.4 last season, which puts him at 15th for 2009 (right in the middle), in front of guys like Carson Palmer, Matt Ryan, Matt Hasselbeck, and Matt Cassel. So if I was the Redskins I wouldn't freak out about Campbell. Instead, I would focus on keeping a coach around for more than two seasons so that Campbell could develop properly. And, shep, I'm glad you aren't the GM of a team I like because while Tim Tebow was a great player in college, his bad footwork, lack of experience under center, and long and slow throwing motion make him a major project. I'm thinking that it will take at least four or five seasons for Tebow to get up to speed, and even then would the changes in footwork and throwing motion be a part of his muscle memory (in other words, when under pressure would he revert to his old ways?)? I wouldn't mind taking a risk on him in the second half of the third round or later. Anything earlier than that is just an unnecessary risk.
So, back on topic, I want to hear someone make a case for Reggie White being the best player ever. Even if you don't think he was, make a case for him.
[Edited on 3-24-2010 by cowboymatt43]
tworoosters
Now that's just silly .
What possible basis can you have for making that statement, besides shep baiting .
March 24, 2010 at 10:32PM View BBCode
Originally posted by Tyles
Tim Tebow: Better than Warren Moon.
Now that's just silly .
What possible basis can you have for making that statement, besides shep baiting .
Hamilton2
March 24, 2010 at 11:35PM View BBCode
Matt, if we don't think that he was the best player ever, why would we make an argument for him to be?
tworoosters
Yeah that's what everyone remembers him for, those 24 starts in Seattle.
March 24, 2010 at 11:51PM View BBCode
Originally posted by Tyles
(Warren Moon was a Seahawks quarterback.)
Yeah that's what everyone remembers him for, those 24 starts in Seattle.
Tyles
[Edited on 3-25-2010 by Tyles]
March 25, 2010 at 12:32AM View BBCode
All the same, I am felled by your barrage of logic. Warren Moon: Not a quarterback the Seahawks have ever had.[Edited on 3-25-2010 by Tyles]
FuriousGiorge
March 25, 2010 at 01:01AM View BBCode
Uh oh, looks like we have a Chess situation brewing.