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shep1582
guys, the best thing you can do is simply skip past his posts.
he's right, you're wrong, and it's all he ever says.
November 28, 2009 at 11:52PM View BBCode
it's so refreshing to watch dikedevil be nice to all the guys in the sports threads, like he always was to me.guys, the best thing you can do is simply skip past his posts.
he's right, you're wrong, and it's all he ever says.
vurbil
Don't you know he's the most clever guy in the world because he can rip off the style of Monty Python and Hitchhiker's Guide to the Universe?
November 29, 2009 at 03:21PM View BBCode
Originally posted by shep1582
it's so refreshing to watch dikedevil be nice to all the guys in the sports threads, like he always was to me.
guys, the best thing you can do is simply skip past his posts.
he's right, you're wrong, and it's all he ever says.
Don't you know he's the most clever guy in the world because he can rip off the style of Monty Python and Hitchhiker's Guide to the Universe?
dirtdevil
(i'd love to hear why the pats are the better team than the colts and saints at this point in time though.)
December 02, 2009 at 10:40PM View BBCode
to be fair, i have never once ripped off hitchiker's guide to the universe. or even the hitchiker's guide to the galaxy, for that matter.(i'd love to hear why the pats are the better team than the colts and saints at this point in time though.)
happy
December 02, 2009 at 11:01PM View BBCode
look, they only lost 4 games. And they werent trying against NO. And they only lost to IND by 1 point, so that basically doesnt even count. and the jets and broncos games were so long ago that I dont count them either. And werent you paying attention when they ran up the score against TEN to show their dominance? 59 points. Have the colts scored 59? no. Not even close. 49, what little panzyboys. And the Saints are in the NFC. Thats not even a real division. I didnt even know they had football teams. Look, if you dont have a quarterback whose name is either tom brady, or peyton manning, your team sucks. And Peyton Manning sucks too, so suck on that colts. Maybe you have the better record but you have the worse quarterback.
Jughead
I agree.
The Patriots are not the best team in football. They are the SMARTEST team.
December 03, 2009 at 05:46PM View BBCode
Originally posted by happy
And the Saints are in the NFC. Thats not even a real division.
I agree.
The Patriots are not the best team in football. They are the SMARTEST team.
bpearly69
[Edited on 12-4-2009 by bpearly69]
December 04, 2009 at 05:42PM View formatted
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haha, yeah they got beat pretty bad, nothing to really defend there, blown coverages, bad defense, bad offense, was frustrating but oh well, still leading the division, just have to get to the playoffs, maybe they'll get their rematches. I don't remember the exact amount but they haven't lost to a team back to back in a very long time, so who knows, we'll see but right now the Saints are the best team in the NFL, proved it monday[Edited on 12-4-2009 by bpearly69]
FuriousGiorge
December 04, 2009 at 05:57PM View BBCode
Yes, because they beat the team that was, prior to that, the best team in the NFL.
dirtdevil
7-3 (0-1) > 10-0 (1-0).
[Edited on 12-4-2009 by dirtdevil]
December 04, 2009 at 06:01PM View BBCode
i thought we'd already established that. patriots math 101.7-3 (0-1) > 10-0 (1-0).
[Edited on 12-4-2009 by dirtdevil]
dirtdevil
actually, that's because you're wrong an awful lot.
December 04, 2009 at 06:03PM View BBCode
oh, and just for kicks:Originally posted by shep1582
he's right, you're wrong, and it's all he ever says.
actually, that's because you're wrong an awful lot.
bpearly69
A lot always try for some reason to say record means your the best team, Vikings have a loss but I'd easily put them over the Colts, throughout the year some teams have the best team but not the best record, the Cardinals technically had the best team in the NFC last season, a lot plays into your record, performance obviously but if your missing key players throughout the season, bad calls from officials, it happens, the best team is the team standing at the end, but I'm sure this will be picked apart also because no one can seem to understand I am not sitting here saying the Patriots are the best team, and continue to treat me as if I'm one of those ridiculous fans on sport message boards
December 05, 2009 at 06:43PM View BBCode
I don't believe I said the Patriots were the best team in the NFL, if I did, sorry, but if not, make sure you know what your saying before you say it, I said, I believe the Patriots are a better team then the Colts THIS YEAR but I do not believe I once said they were the best team in the NFL this year, once again, just in case, if I did, I apologize. The Saints proved they were the best in the NFL by beating one of the better teams, not only beating them but basically dominating them, they didn't get breaks with bad spots and fumbles, they flat out just whooped ass for basically the whole game, schedule wise, the Patriots were probably their toughest opponent so far, and they dominated like they have, but them or the colts will not go undefeated.A lot always try for some reason to say record means your the best team, Vikings have a loss but I'd easily put them over the Colts, throughout the year some teams have the best team but not the best record, the Cardinals technically had the best team in the NFC last season, a lot plays into your record, performance obviously but if your missing key players throughout the season, bad calls from officials, it happens, the best team is the team standing at the end, but I'm sure this will be picked apart also because no one can seem to understand I am not sitting here saying the Patriots are the best team, and continue to treat me as if I'm one of those ridiculous fans on sport message boards
tworoosters
Belief is a wonderful thing, it's what makes fans, but there is no objective reason to say that the Patriots are better.
Among the factors that come into play are:
1) No one has beaten the Colts
2) Four teams have beaten the Patriots (including the Jets)
3) The Colts beat the Patriots
Before you go off about how lucky the Colts are and whatever subjective reasoning you have the bottom line is that until someone beats the Colts they are the best team in the AFC - period.
If I were a Patriots fan my biggest concern right now would not be the "perception" that the Colts are better it would be a 1-4 road record and virtually no chance of locking up a #1 seed in the playoffs.
December 05, 2009 at 09:25PM View BBCode
Originally posted by bpearly69
I said, I believe the Patriots are a better team then the Colts THIS YEAR
Belief is a wonderful thing, it's what makes fans, but there is no objective reason to say that the Patriots are better.
Among the factors that come into play are:
1) No one has beaten the Colts
2) Four teams have beaten the Patriots (including the Jets)
3) The Colts beat the Patriots
Before you go off about how lucky the Colts are and whatever subjective reasoning you have the bottom line is that until someone beats the Colts they are the best team in the AFC - period.
If I were a Patriots fan my biggest concern right now would not be the "perception" that the Colts are better it would be a 1-4 road record and virtually no chance of locking up a #1 seed in the playoffs.
dirtdevil
subjectively, do i think the colts are as good as their record? no. but until someone steps up and proves that, i can't see how anyone could consider any team other than them to be the best outfit in the afc right now.
(also, since the cards were in the superbowl last year, that gives them the right to say they were the best team in the nfc, actually. just like the giants' superbowl wins gives them the right to call themselves the best team in the nfl that year, no matter who went 18-1.)
December 05, 2009 at 09:42PM View BBCode
along with the two undefeated teams the pats have lost to teams with records of 6-6 and 7-4. the only teams new england has beaten with winning records are both (balt and atlanta) 6-5. the colts have defeated two 7-4 teams (pats and cards) and two more (balt and jax) who are 6-5 and the 5-6 texans twice (who are 5-4 against everyone outside indy). so in addition to beating the patriots head to head (which for everyone outside new england is usually the first tie breaker), they have also beaten more quality teams than have the pats. there is no way anyone not operating on blind hope alone could reasonably conclude that the colts are not, as of this moment, the 'better' team of the two.subjectively, do i think the colts are as good as their record? no. but until someone steps up and proves that, i can't see how anyone could consider any team other than them to be the best outfit in the afc right now.
(also, since the cards were in the superbowl last year, that gives them the right to say they were the best team in the nfc, actually. just like the giants' superbowl wins gives them the right to call themselves the best team in the nfl that year, no matter who went 18-1.)
vurbil
You just need to realize that you're not dealing with people that are interested in having an intelligent conversation. They're just making idiotic statements to annoy you. I suggest if you want to have an intelligent conversation about football, you should go to a sports forum where people know something about the game.
The Saints really impressed me on Monday night. I did not think they would dominate as they did. Of course this is coming from a Patriots fan, but I felt the Patriots would probably lose because of the home field but that it would be very competitive.
The defense got exposed (to state the obvious). It may not be quite as bad as it looked in that game (had some flat out blown coverages, etc that could get corrected), but I think it's clear that it is not championship caliber at this point. You have to realize that basically the entire defense from the championship years is gone. McGinest, Seymour, Vrabel, Bruschi, Seau, Law, Samuel, Harrison -- all gone. The haters could be right and it could be the end of an era. Or the young defense could just need time to mature. We won't know the answer to that for sure until after next season I would say.
The offense is still one of the best, but I think either Moss is showing his age or he is reverting back to his lazy days. He seems to be jogging around out there quite a bit and getting very frustrated when the ball happens to not be thrown his way. He also seems to feast on bad defenses and disappear against good ones.
It's surprising when the offense gets shut down because I think it still has great weapons. I think the defense just puts too much pressure on it--forces it to be pass happy, and is constantly creating momentum for the other team.
We have the Raiders' first round pick this year. I don't follow college, but I really hope there is a dominant pass rusher available because I think that's what the defense desperately needs.
December 05, 2009 at 09:42PM View BBCode
Originally posted by bpearly69
I don't believe I said the Patriots were the best team in the NFL, if I did, sorry, but if not, make sure you know what your saying before you say it, I said, I believe the Patriots are a better team then the Colts THIS YEAR but I do not believe I once said they were the best team in the NFL this year, once again, just in case, if I did, I apologize. The Saints proved they were the best in the NFL by beating one of the better teams, not only beating them but basically dominating them, they didn't get breaks with bad spots and fumbles, they flat out just whooped ass for basically the whole game, schedule wise, the Patriots were probably their toughest opponent so far, and they dominated like they have, but them or the colts will not go undefeated.
A lot always try for some reason to say record means your the best team, Vikings have a loss but I'd easily put them over the Colts, throughout the year some teams have the best team but not the best record, the Cardinals technically had the best team in the NFC last season, a lot plays into your record, performance obviously but if your missing key players throughout the season, bad calls from officials, it happens, the best team is the team standing at the end, but I'm sure this will be picked apart also because no one can seem to understand I am not sitting here saying the Patriots are the best team, and continue to treat me as if I'm one of those ridiculous fans on sport message boards
You just need to realize that you're not dealing with people that are interested in having an intelligent conversation. They're just making idiotic statements to annoy you. I suggest if you want to have an intelligent conversation about football, you should go to a sports forum where people know something about the game.
The Saints really impressed me on Monday night. I did not think they would dominate as they did. Of course this is coming from a Patriots fan, but I felt the Patriots would probably lose because of the home field but that it would be very competitive.
The defense got exposed (to state the obvious). It may not be quite as bad as it looked in that game (had some flat out blown coverages, etc that could get corrected), but I think it's clear that it is not championship caliber at this point. You have to realize that basically the entire defense from the championship years is gone. McGinest, Seymour, Vrabel, Bruschi, Seau, Law, Samuel, Harrison -- all gone. The haters could be right and it could be the end of an era. Or the young defense could just need time to mature. We won't know the answer to that for sure until after next season I would say.
The offense is still one of the best, but I think either Moss is showing his age or he is reverting back to his lazy days. He seems to be jogging around out there quite a bit and getting very frustrated when the ball happens to not be thrown his way. He also seems to feast on bad defenses and disappear against good ones.
It's surprising when the offense gets shut down because I think it still has great weapons. I think the defense just puts too much pressure on it--forces it to be pass happy, and is constantly creating momentum for the other team.
We have the Raiders' first round pick this year. I don't follow college, but I really hope there is a dominant pass rusher available because I think that's what the defense desperately needs.
dirtdevil
the unitentional irony contained in this statement is just mindboggling. kudos.
December 05, 2009 at 09:44PM View BBCode
Originally posted by vurbil
You just need to realize that you're not dealing with people that are interested in having an intelligent conversation. They're just making idiotic statements to annoy you. I suggest if you want to have an intelligent conversation about football, you should go to a sports forum where people know something about the game.
the unitentional irony contained in this statement is just mindboggling. kudos.
vurbil
Do you have anything to say about the game? Did you watch it?
December 05, 2009 at 09:59PM View BBCode
Originally posted by dirtdevil
Originally posted by vurbil
You just need to realize that you're not dealing with people that are interested in having an intelligent conversation. They're just making idiotic statements to annoy you. I suggest if you want to have an intelligent conversation about football, you should go to a sports forum where people know something about the game.
the unitentional irony contained in this statement is just mindboggling. kudos.
Do you have anything to say about the game? Did you watch it?
barterer2002
You realize of course that this is why there are haters. Its because Patriot fans (and Red Sox fans as well) tend to believe that their teams are so great that anyone who doesn't always say that they're great is a hater.
The truth of the matter is that the Patriots this year are not that good. They still have a dynamic passing game with Brady Welker and Moss but the running game is pedestrian at best.
The Pats have some good wins (see Titans and Ravens) some lucky wins (Bills) losses to good teams (Saints and Colts) and losses to mid level teams (Jets and Broncos). In short they're fairly inconsistent and can play with the top teams but the same can be said of a dozen NFL teams this year. The argument that they're better than the colts is foolhardy, and one that would only be made by a die hard homer who isn't looking at things without bias. Could they have beaten the Colts, of course but they didn't. Are the Colts the best team in the NFL, probably not right now anyone would have to say that's the saints. There are probably 3-4 top teams in the NFL this year. Call them New Orleans, Minnesota and Indy. After that you've got about 9 teams that could beat anyone on any day but could also lose to a poor team on that same day. (Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Cincinnati, New England, San Diego, Dallas, Philadelphia, Giants, Green Bay). Any of these teams COULD go on a playoff run and if everything breaks right win it all but none is really better than any of the others. Throw these 9 into a basket and pull one out as the 4th best team in the NFL, you could make an argument for any of them but you could make it for all of them.
New England earlier in the decade was clearly one of the best all time teams with their 3 super bowl wins. They aren't that team any longer. They're good but no longer great.
December 05, 2009 at 10:36PM View BBCode
Originally posted by vurbil
You just need to realize that you're not dealing with people that are interested in having an intelligent conversation. They're just making idiotic statements to annoy you. I suggest if you want to have an intelligent conversation about football, you should go to a sports forum where people know something about the game.
The Saints really impressed me on Monday night. I did not think they would dominate as they did. Of course this is coming from a Patriots fan, but I felt the Patriots would probably lose because of the home field but that it would be very competitive.
The defense got exposed (to state the obvious). It may not be quite as bad as it looked in that game (had some flat out blown coverages, etc that could get corrected), but I think it's clear that it is not championship caliber at this point. You have to realize that basically the entire defense from the championship years is gone. McGinest, Seymour, Vrabel, Bruschi, Seau, Law, Samuel, Harrison -- all gone. The haters could be right and it could be the end of an era. Or the young defense could just need time to mature. We won't know the answer to that for sure until after next season I would say.
The offense is still one of the best, but I think either Moss is showing his age or he is reverting back to his lazy days. He seems to be jogging around out there quite a bit and getting very frustrated when the ball happens to not be thrown his way. He also seems to feast on bad defenses and disappear against good ones.
It's surprising when the offense gets shut down because I think it still has great weapons. I think the defense just puts too much pressure on it--forces it to be pass happy, and is constantly creating momentum for the other team.
We have the Raiders' first round pick this year. I don't follow college, but I really hope there is a dominant pass rusher available because I think that's what the defense desperately needs.
You realize of course that this is why there are haters. Its because Patriot fans (and Red Sox fans as well) tend to believe that their teams are so great that anyone who doesn't always say that they're great is a hater.
The truth of the matter is that the Patriots this year are not that good. They still have a dynamic passing game with Brady Welker and Moss but the running game is pedestrian at best.
The Pats have some good wins (see Titans and Ravens) some lucky wins (Bills) losses to good teams (Saints and Colts) and losses to mid level teams (Jets and Broncos). In short they're fairly inconsistent and can play with the top teams but the same can be said of a dozen NFL teams this year. The argument that they're better than the colts is foolhardy, and one that would only be made by a die hard homer who isn't looking at things without bias. Could they have beaten the Colts, of course but they didn't. Are the Colts the best team in the NFL, probably not right now anyone would have to say that's the saints. There are probably 3-4 top teams in the NFL this year. Call them New Orleans, Minnesota and Indy. After that you've got about 9 teams that could beat anyone on any day but could also lose to a poor team on that same day. (Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Cincinnati, New England, San Diego, Dallas, Philadelphia, Giants, Green Bay). Any of these teams COULD go on a playoff run and if everything breaks right win it all but none is really better than any of the others. Throw these 9 into a basket and pull one out as the 4th best team in the NFL, you could make an argument for any of them but you could make it for all of them.
New England earlier in the decade was clearly one of the best all time teams with their 3 super bowl wins. They aren't that team any longer. They're good but no longer great.
shep1582
no, it's because you're a condescending blowhard.
December 06, 2009 at 02:36AM View BBCode
Originally posted by dirtdevil
oh, and just for kicks:
Originally posted by shep1582
he's right, you're wrong, and it's all he ever says.
actually, that's because you're wrong an awful lot.
no, it's because you're a condescending blowhard.
vurbil
I can live with everything you stated except for one thing. You state that there aren't haters, just bad New England fans. But your comment itself indicates a bias. There is clearly a hatred out there that is reserved especially for the Patriots. It happens when a team becomes so good over a period of time that people becomes resentful of their success. It really took off in 2007 when they went undefeated. Ever since then I have seen a quite irrational hatred of the team. It's been an interesting evolution to watch. For a long time the Patriots were a perennial loser. I remember the 1-15 Rod Rust days. When the Patriots won the 2001 Superbowl, they were a huge underdog and probably everyone outside of St. Louis was cheering for them. Even in the 2003-2004 period, I never sensed much hatred. People seemed to prefer the hard nosed style of the team over the finesse Colts. But as time went on and they stayed dominant, the resentment started to build up. It has progressed to the point now where people are just completely irrational when it comes to the Patriots. You say Boston fans exaggerate how good the Patriots are, but I would say that the haters are always trying to exaggerate how bad they are. Considering the fact that in 2007 the team went 16-0, then went 11-5 last year without their QB, it is perfectly reasonable that people assumed they would be an elite team again this year with Brady back. But you dismiss this logical conclusion as delusions of "Boston homers." I believe it was reasonable after the Colts game to think that the Patriots were once again an elite team. Yes, they had lost to the Jets and Broncos, but those were early in the season when Brady was clearly still shaking the rust off. They had been on a big roll where they were blowing teams out, and then they played a very competitive game AT Indianapolis. So I don't see how Patriots fan were delusional in thinking the Patriots were a great team. Of course the Saints blew them out and exposed the defense as a huge weakness, and I don't think any Patriots fans are saying the Patriots are a great team after that game.
December 06, 2009 at 04:10PM View BBCode
Originally posted by barterer2002
Originally posted by vurbil
You just need to realize that you're not dealing with people that are interested in having an intelligent conversation. They're just making idiotic statements to annoy you. I suggest if you want to have an intelligent conversation about football, you should go to a sports forum where people know something about the game.
The Saints really impressed me on Monday night. I did not think they would dominate as they did. Of course this is coming from a Patriots fan, but I felt the Patriots would probably lose because of the home field but that it would be very competitive.
The defense got exposed (to state the obvious). It may not be quite as bad as it looked in that game (had some flat out blown coverages, etc that could get corrected), but I think it's clear that it is not championship caliber at this point. You have to realize that basically the entire defense from the championship years is gone. McGinest, Seymour, Vrabel, Bruschi, Seau, Law, Samuel, Harrison -- all gone. The haters could be right and it could be the end of an era. Or the young defense could just need time to mature. We won't know the answer to that for sure until after next season I would say.
The offense is still one of the best, but I think either Moss is showing his age or he is reverting back to his lazy days. He seems to be jogging around out there quite a bit and getting very frustrated when the ball happens to not be thrown his way. He also seems to feast on bad defenses and disappear against good ones.
It's surprising when the offense gets shut down because I think it still has great weapons. I think the defense just puts too much pressure on it--forces it to be pass happy, and is constantly creating momentum for the other team.
We have the Raiders' first round pick this year. I don't follow college, but I really hope there is a dominant pass rusher available because I think that's what the defense desperately needs.
You realize of course that this is why there are haters. Its because Patriot fans (and Red Sox fans as well) tend to believe that their teams are so great that anyone who doesn't always say that they're great is a hater.
The truth of the matter is that the Patriots this year are not that good. They still have a dynamic passing game with Brady Welker and Moss but the running game is pedestrian at best.
The Pats have some good wins (see Titans and Ravens) some lucky wins (Bills) losses to good teams (Saints and Colts) and losses to mid level teams (Jets and Broncos). In short they're fairly inconsistent and can play with the top teams but the same can be said of a dozen NFL teams this year. The argument that they're better than the colts is foolhardy, and one that would only be made by a die hard homer who isn't looking at things without bias. Could they have beaten the Colts, of course but they didn't. Are the Colts the best team in the NFL, probably not right now anyone would have to say that's the saints. There are probably 3-4 top teams in the NFL this year. Call them New Orleans, Minnesota and Indy. After that you've got about 9 teams that could beat anyone on any day but could also lose to a poor team on that same day. (Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Cincinnati, New England, San Diego, Dallas, Philadelphia, Giants, Green Bay). Any of these teams COULD go on a playoff run and if everything breaks right win it all but none is really better than any of the others. Throw these 9 into a basket and pull one out as the 4th best team in the NFL, you could make an argument for any of them but you could make it for all of them.
New England earlier in the decade was clearly one of the best all time teams with their 3 super bowl wins. They aren't that team any longer. They're good but no longer great.
I can live with everything you stated except for one thing. You state that there aren't haters, just bad New England fans. But your comment itself indicates a bias. There is clearly a hatred out there that is reserved especially for the Patriots. It happens when a team becomes so good over a period of time that people becomes resentful of their success. It really took off in 2007 when they went undefeated. Ever since then I have seen a quite irrational hatred of the team. It's been an interesting evolution to watch. For a long time the Patriots were a perennial loser. I remember the 1-15 Rod Rust days. When the Patriots won the 2001 Superbowl, they were a huge underdog and probably everyone outside of St. Louis was cheering for them. Even in the 2003-2004 period, I never sensed much hatred. People seemed to prefer the hard nosed style of the team over the finesse Colts. But as time went on and they stayed dominant, the resentment started to build up. It has progressed to the point now where people are just completely irrational when it comes to the Patriots. You say Boston fans exaggerate how good the Patriots are, but I would say that the haters are always trying to exaggerate how bad they are. Considering the fact that in 2007 the team went 16-0, then went 11-5 last year without their QB, it is perfectly reasonable that people assumed they would be an elite team again this year with Brady back. But you dismiss this logical conclusion as delusions of "Boston homers." I believe it was reasonable after the Colts game to think that the Patriots were once again an elite team. Yes, they had lost to the Jets and Broncos, but those were early in the season when Brady was clearly still shaking the rust off. They had been on a big roll where they were blowing teams out, and then they played a very competitive game AT Indianapolis. So I don't see how Patriots fan were delusional in thinking the Patriots were a great team. Of course the Saints blew them out and exposed the defense as a huge weakness, and I don't think any Patriots fans are saying the Patriots are a great team after that game.
shep1582
They've won more SB's than anyone in history, but I think their blue collar identity keeps people from truly hating them (their interdivisional rivals notwithstanding). People either love or hate the 'Boys, the Pats, the Raiders, and when they were good, the Niners, and the Dolphins. I may be oversimplifying this, but Pats fans should expect this vilification, and embrace it.
Uneasy lies the head that wears the crown...
December 06, 2009 at 05:19PM View BBCode
I think the only team that's ever had sustained excellence that didn't become universally hated outside their fan base is the Steelers.They've won more SB's than anyone in history, but I think their blue collar identity keeps people from truly hating them (their interdivisional rivals notwithstanding). People either love or hate the 'Boys, the Pats, the Raiders, and when they were good, the Niners, and the Dolphins. I may be oversimplifying this, but Pats fans should expect this vilification, and embrace it.
Uneasy lies the head that wears the crown...
dirtdevil
aw shucks. and you had gone a whole week without insulting anyone. too bad.
December 06, 2009 at 07:53PM View BBCode
Originally posted by shep1582
Originally posted by dirtdevil
oh, and just for kicks:
Originally posted by shep1582
he's right, you're wrong, and it's all he ever says.
actually, that's because you're wrong an awful lot.
no, it's because you're a condescending blowhard.
aw shucks. and you had gone a whole week without insulting anyone. too bad.
shep1582
no one likes you because of your attitude on here, but you are so smug you don't realize it.
some people don't like me because I don't drink the kool aid of the "progressive" movement, and because I don't knuckle under to the rants and insults of you and your P.A.L.'s.
you've ruined a good message board with your snide comments and pretentious attitude.
December 06, 2009 at 08:19PM View BBCode
there's a big difference between insulting someone and telling them the truth. you are condescending and you do blow hard, that's the truth, not an insult.no one likes you because of your attitude on here, but you are so smug you don't realize it.
some people don't like me because I don't drink the kool aid of the "progressive" movement, and because I don't knuckle under to the rants and insults of you and your P.A.L.'s.
you've ruined a good message board with your snide comments and pretentious attitude.