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barterer2002
When Neil Armstrong landed on the moon Johnson had been retired for 40 years and his 3,509 strikeouts was the most. Nobody else had 3,000 and wouldn't until Bob Gibson struck out Cesar Geronimo in 1971 to become the second pitcher to record 3000 Ks. Number 2 on the all time list was Cy Young with 2,803.
Walter won 400 games basically because he threw shutouts or allowed one run. The Senators weren't good enough to score. He has more 1-0 decision (and more wins and losses in the 1-0 variety) than any other pitcher in the history of the game. His 110 shutouts is 20 more than the runner up (Grover Cleveland Alexander). He was twice the AL MVP in an ERA when you weren't allowed to win it more than once (there was an award established from 1911-1914 and then it went defunct and another came around for 1922-28 Both had the requirement that previous winners were ineligible)
January 29, 2009 at 09:36PM View BBCode
Of course he was. Anyone who doesn't realize that simply doesn't understand the history of the game.When Neil Armstrong landed on the moon Johnson had been retired for 40 years and his 3,509 strikeouts was the most. Nobody else had 3,000 and wouldn't until Bob Gibson struck out Cesar Geronimo in 1971 to become the second pitcher to record 3000 Ks. Number 2 on the all time list was Cy Young with 2,803.
Walter won 400 games basically because he threw shutouts or allowed one run. The Senators weren't good enough to score. He has more 1-0 decision (and more wins and losses in the 1-0 variety) than any other pitcher in the history of the game. His 110 shutouts is 20 more than the runner up (Grover Cleveland Alexander). He was twice the AL MVP in an ERA when you weren't allowed to win it more than once (there was an award established from 1911-1914 and then it went defunct and another came around for 1922-28 Both had the requirement that previous winners were ineligible)
whiskybear
Walter Johnson was the tits, yes, but this is beyond trivial. He didn't win two MVPs when you were only allowed one. He won two different awards, and none of the seven other winners of the first one happened to win the second. (And four of those previous winners were retired by the time the second one was issued.)
Come on, Bryan.
January 29, 2009 at 09:44PM View BBCode
Originally posted by barterer2002
He was twice the AL MVP in an ERA when you weren't allowed to win it more than once (there was an award established from 1911-1914 and then it went defunct and another came around for 1922-28 Both had the requirement that previous winners were ineligible)
Walter Johnson was the tits, yes, but this is beyond trivial. He didn't win two MVPs when you were only allowed one. He won two different awards, and none of the seven other winners of the first one happened to win the second. (And four of those previous winners were retired by the time the second one was issued.)
Come on, Bryan.
happy
however the point is moot, because benne voted for randy johnson, and now Jchelland can just say its walter johnson since randy already won.
(also, i wouldve voted for Walter Johnson instead of 3 finger brown, but i assumed that Walter Johnson is in no danger of losing.)
January 29, 2009 at 09:48PM View BBCode
I assumed it was randy johnson because Jchelland has expressed that he likes pitchers who are not approved by PETA. Also, people generally put the earlier brackets first, and his first pick was from bracket 3. i think its a fair assumption. he could have picked walter johnson, but i would take a straight bet that it was randy johnson.however the point is moot, because benne voted for randy johnson, and now Jchelland can just say its walter johnson since randy already won.
(also, i wouldve voted for Walter Johnson instead of 3 finger brown, but i assumed that Walter Johnson is in no danger of losing.)
tm4559
January 29, 2009 at 09:49PM View BBCode
also, 1500 of Johnson's strikeout victims were dinosaurs. and they were known for their atrocious plate discipline.
FuriousGiorge
[Edited on 1-29-2009 by FuriousGiorge]
January 29, 2009 at 09:50PM View BBCode
It's hard to swing a bat with those tiny little arms.[Edited on 1-29-2009 by FuriousGiorge]
jchelland
January 29, 2009 at 09:53PM View BBCode
It was Randy. And I am glad to see him pull it out. I will forfeit my second vote in this round for once again being stupid.
jchelland
January 29, 2009 at 09:55PM View BBCode
Dinsaurs with little arms swinging a bat. I laughed. That was pretty funny.:)
whiskybear
(It's like a trireme with razor-sharp teeth, and do you know how dangerous triremes are?!)
January 29, 2009 at 10:00PM View BBCode
Doesn't that child know he's playing with a dimetrodon? It's equipped with a ... large sail on its spine.(It's like a trireme with razor-sharp teeth, and do you know how dangerous triremes are?!)
barterer2002
January 29, 2009 at 10:02PM View BBCode
Originally posted by happy
Also, people generally put the earlier brackets first, and his first pick was from bracket 3. i think its a fair assumption.
Originally posted by happy
screw clemens.
Randy Johnson, 3 finger brown.
barterer2002
I knew that as I was writing it yes.
January 29, 2009 at 10:03PM View BBCode
Originally posted by whiskybear
Originally posted by barterer2002
He was twice the AL MVP in an ERA when you weren't allowed to win it more than once (there was an award established from 1911-1914 and then it went defunct and another came around for 1922-28 Both had the requirement that previous winners were ineligible)
Walter Johnson was the tits, yes, but this is beyond trivial. He didn't win two MVPs when you were only allowed one. He won two different awards, and none of the seven other winners of the first one happened to win the second. (And four of those previous winners were retired by the time the second one was issued.)
Come on, Bryan.
I knew that as I was writing it yes.
jchelland
http://dlazechk.dl.funpic.org/mergeddinosaursandfood2.html
January 29, 2009 at 10:03PM View BBCode
Even though it is not baseball, a Calvin and Hobbes image jumped into my head when the dinosaour thing came up:http://dlazechk.dl.funpic.org/mergeddinosaursandfood2.html
whiskybear
Everything else just seemed so genuine.
January 29, 2009 at 10:05PM View BBCode
Originally posted by barterer2002
I knew that as I was writing it yes.
Everything else just seemed so genuine.
tm4559
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January 29, 2009 at 10:11PM View BBCode
whew. it was a little hard to find.[url=http://bp2.blogger.com/_L5aU9SvCApI/SAnbBp451MI/AAAAAAAAGaM/lLoCQ0yJ7n4/s1600-h/an+average+Tuesday+at+Shea+Stadium.jpg]not suitable for children.[/url]
whiskybear
[Edited on 1-29-2009 by whiskybear]
January 29, 2009 at 10:14PM View BBCode
(The middle infielders are usually pretty gamey. If I'm that dino, you better believe I'm going straight for Bobby Bonilla.)[Edited on 1-29-2009 by whiskybear]
jchelland
Or maybe a Feilder, Father or Son.
January 29, 2009 at 10:15PM View BBCode
Originally posted by whiskybear
(The middle infielders are usually pretty gamey. If I'm that dino, you better believe I'm going straight for Bobby Bonilla.)
[Edited on 1-29-2009 by whiskybear]
Or maybe a Feilder, Father or Son.