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| Poll: Best pitcher in MLB now | |
|---|---|
| Jake Peavy | 5 |
| Johan Santana | 16 |
| C.C. Sabathia | 1 |
| Josh Beckett | 5 |
| King Felix Hernandez | 0 |
| Dice-K | 0 |
| Brandon Webb | 7 |
| Dan Haren | 0 |
| Brad Penny | 1 |
| Ben Sheets | 1 |
| Carlos Zambrano | 2 |
| Fausto Carmona | 0 |
| Chris Young | 0 |
| Erik Bedard | 0 |
| John Lackey | 0 |
tworoosters
Now that's just cruel, isolating his 2008 season. Lets look deeper like say his [url=http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/splits?playerId=5019&type=pitching3&three=1]last three year splits[/url] where...............oh well he's still better at home.
May 06, 2008 at 02:31AM View BBCode
Originally posted by BobbyGrich
Originally posted by JakePeavy44
he has better numbers away then he does at Petco number 1.
#2 Is it just me or does this [url=http://mlb.mlb.com/stats/individual_player_splits.jsp?playerID=408241&statType=2]stat line[/url] show Peavy having a 0.87 ERA at home and a 4.58 away? How is 4.58 better than 0.87??????????????
Now that's just cruel, isolating his 2008 season. Lets look deeper like say his [url=http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/splits?playerId=5019&type=pitching3&three=1]last three year splits[/url] where...............oh well he's still better at home.
dirtdevil
May 06, 2008 at 02:35AM View BBCode
roosters, roosters, roosters. you're just not up on how this works here. you can only cite statistics from this season, last season or any other season when they HELP peavy's case. otherwise they don't exist.
JakePeavy44
3.01-home
Thats not a huge margin he is a great pitcher in both places. And like one of you said if by the end of this year he has a significantly better season that Santana or Webb or Beckett than he has overthrown them can we at least agree on that?
May 06, 2008 at 02:49AM View BBCode
3.33-away3.01-home
Thats not a huge margin he is a great pitcher in both places. And like one of you said if by the end of this year he has a significantly better season that Santana or Webb or Beckett than he has overthrown them can we at least agree on that?
JakePeavy44
by the way my vote is for Tom Seaver
May 06, 2008 at 02:53AM View BBCode
If we can agree on that we can start another post, because we need some more time to let the season develpop, in which we can argue some more on another debated topic like... best Pitcher of all time.by the way my vote is for Tom Seaver
dirtdevil
no.
May 06, 2008 at 02:56AM View BBCode
Originally posted by JakePeavy44
And like one of you said if by the end of this year he has a significantly better season that Santana or Webb or Beckett than he has overthrown them can we at least agree on that?
no.
dirtdevil
you can not be serious.
May 06, 2008 at 02:57AM View BBCode
Originally posted by JakePeavy44
If we can agree on that we can start another post, because we need some more time to let the season develpop, in which we can argue some more on another debated topic like... best Pitcher of all time.
by the way my vote is for Tom Seaver
you can not be serious.
happy
I think Peavy is significantly worse than either of them, however if Santana and Webb both had an extremely bad year, and Peavy had an ERA below 1.50, yes, I think I could at least see the argument. But that is what would need to happen for this to even be an argument.
----im going to start a best pitcher of all time topic.
May 06, 2008 at 03:01AM View BBCode
Originally posted by JakePeavy44
3.33-away
3.01-home
Thats not a huge margin he is a great pitcher in both places. And like one of you said if by the end of this year he has a significantly better season that Santana or Webb or Beckett than he has overthrown them can we at least agree on that?
I think Peavy is significantly worse than either of them, however if Santana and Webb both had an extremely bad year, and Peavy had an ERA below 1.50, yes, I think I could at least see the argument. But that is what would need to happen for this to even be an argument.
----im going to start a best pitcher of all time topic.
Smocko
Giggletown!
May 07, 2008 at 05:57AM View BBCode
Originally posted by JakePeavy44
How is that for CRAZY (Damn you HTML CODE)
[Edited on 5-5-2008 by JakePeavy44]
Giggletown!
JakePeavy44
May 07, 2008 at 11:04PM View BBCode
Got another vote, well at least there are 2 people who can listen to logic. I don't count myself by the way.
tworoosters
May 08, 2008 at 06:43AM View BBCode
I refuse to vote until you put Roy Halladay on the list,
barterer2002
May 08, 2008 at 01:16PM View BBCode
I refuse to vote as long as there is a west coast bias. I mean after all we've got 2 players from Seattle, 2 from San Diego, 2 from Arizona, two from LA. Are you telling me that half the good pitchers in baseball throw in those four cities? Where is Matt Cain for gods sake.
dirtdevil
obviously. you've already proven that you can't.
May 08, 2008 at 04:12PM View BBCode
Originally posted by JakePeavy44
Got another vote, well at least there are 2 people who can listen to logic. I don't count myself by the way.
obviously. you've already proven that you can't.
dirtdevil
hear, hear!
May 08, 2008 at 04:12PM View BBCode
Originally posted by tworoosters
I refuse to vote until you put Roy Halladay on the list,
hear, hear!
whiskybear
The answer is so obviously Jake Peavy that he could have just listed Randy Wolf 14 times and we'd still recognize the best.
May 08, 2008 at 04:13PM View BBCode
Originally posted by barterer2002
I refuse to vote as long as there is a west coast bias. I mean after all we've got 2 players from Seattle, 2 from San Diego, 2 from Arizona, two from LA. Are you telling me that half the good pitchers in baseball throw in those four cities? Where is Matt Cain for gods sake.
The answer is so obviously Jake Peavy that he could have just listed Randy Wolf 14 times and we'd still recognize the best.
happy
Well duh, all of the facts other than well...the stats, the emperical evidence, and the general opinion of the populus.... are on Jake Peavy's side. Listen, this guy is right, I mean, what if Peavy plays 2-3 standard deviations over his expected value while Santana and Webb play 2-3 standard deviations below their expected value? Then Peavy would be better. Meaning Peavy is better. Because JakePeavyStalker is rooting for him, so how could he not improve to this level?
May 08, 2008 at 09:45PM View BBCode
Originally posted by whiskybear
Originally posted by barterer2002
I refuse to vote as long as there is a west coast bias. I mean after all we've got 2 players from Seattle, 2 from San Diego, 2 from Arizona, two from LA. Are you telling me that half the good pitchers in baseball throw in those four cities? Where is Matt Cain for gods sake.
The answer is so obviously Jake Peavy that he could have just listed Randy Wolf 14 times and we'd still recognize the best.
Well duh, all of the facts other than well...the stats, the emperical evidence, and the general opinion of the populus.... are on Jake Peavy's side. Listen, this guy is right, I mean, what if Peavy plays 2-3 standard deviations over his expected value while Santana and Webb play 2-3 standard deviations below their expected value? Then Peavy would be better. Meaning Peavy is better. Because JakePeavyStalker is rooting for him, so how could he not improve to this level?
Hamilton2
May 09, 2008 at 01:18AM View BBCode
Meanwhile, Brandon Webb is 8-0. Of the top 10 pitchers Webb is most similar to at his age, 3 are in the hall of fame, including Jim Bunning and Bob Gibson.
FuriousGiorge
May 09, 2008 at 01:27AM View BBCode
Bunning also has the added bonus of being [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7SVEvAyp4M]certifiably insane[/url].
FuriousGiorge
May 09, 2008 at 06:01PM View BBCode
Ah yes, the classic "once you have money, you will become a Republican" scenario. Since I don't plan to start an oil company any time soon, and since I still care about social liberalism, forgive me if I'm just a wee bit reticent about calling myself a future Republican.
happy
Well its always fun to be generous with other people's money isnt it?
May 09, 2008 at 06:04PM View BBCode
Ah.Well its always fun to be generous with other people's money isnt it?
FuriousGiorge
May 09, 2008 at 06:08PM View BBCode
Do you really, honestly think that the divide between the two major parties has anything to do with taxing and spending?