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yankeekid
Yankees Angels Series
October 05, 2005 at 01:30AM View BBCode
Who will win? Well I'm biased so I would pick the Yanks. They're up 4-0 going into the top of the 4th right now, so I would pick em to win game one. With Wang going tomorrow I'm not sure if they can win that, but I think Randy and Chacon will rap it up at home. Aneheim (Los Angeles) is a pretty good team but I just don't think they're going to get this one. Are their any Angels fans out there?
Dymondgzr
taken game1 so a bad start for L.A.
October 05, 2005 at 03:21AM View BBCode
I'm a WhiteSox fan rooting for the Angels..just now the Yankees havetaken game1 so a bad start for L.A.
barterer2002
October 05, 2005 at 12:02PM View BBCode
My suspiscion is that it is difficult for anyone who isn't a Yankees fan to begin with to root for them in a series like this one.
yankeekid
October 05, 2005 at 01:44PM View BBCode
If the Yanks lose their next three I would be very suprised. Randy Johnson at home should most definitely do better than Mike Mussina just off the DL on the road.
FuriousGiorge
If you put your faith in Randy Johnson on Friday, you're going to be disappointed.
October 05, 2005 at 02:44PM View BBCode
Do better? What's going to happen, he's going to pitch so well that the Yankees get credited for two wins?If you put your faith in Randy Johnson on Friday, you're going to be disappointed.
FuriousGiorge
October 05, 2005 at 04:59PM View BBCode
Maybe we will, maybe we won't. Maybe Yankee Stadium will get swallowed up by a vengeful Earth, never to be trodden again by mortal man.
andrew
As for the next game, Lackey has been sweet this season, so I am feeling good against Wang. Of course crazier things have happened.
October 05, 2005 at 07:58PM View BBCode
I'm not too worried at this point, the Halos got to Rivera, which gives me a little confidence for late innings later in the series.As for the next game, Lackey has been sweet this season, so I am feeling good against Wang. Of course crazier things have happened.
Isaiah4110
Actually it's quite simple. All you have to do is hate the Angels.
October 06, 2005 at 08:25PM View BBCode
Originally posted by barterer2002
My suspiscion is that it is difficult for anyone who isn't a Yankees fan to begin with to root for them in a series like this one.
Actually it's quite simple. All you have to do is hate the Angels.
yankeekid
October 06, 2005 at 08:36PM View BBCode
Sadly, most people hate the Yankees more than they hate the Angels or any other team in baseball, or sports for that matter. Why do they hate them? Because their better and at some time have knocked out someones favorite team from the playoffs. Either that or they think its cheap that we're rich. Oh yeah and there are also those people who hate those obnoxious Yankee fans. :)
ME
Don't worry, I hate the Red Sox a little more.
[Edited on 10-6-2005 by ME]
October 06, 2005 at 09:16PM View BBCode
Originally posted by yankeekid
Sadly, most people hate the Yankees more than they hate the Angels or any other team in baseball, or sports for that matter. Why do they hate them? Because their better and at some time have knocked out someones favorite team from the playoffs. Either that or they think its cheap that we're rich. Oh yeah and there are also those people who hate those obnoxious Yankee fans. :)
Don't worry, I hate the Red Sox a little more.
[Edited on 10-6-2005 by ME]
Isaiah4110
BoSox = UberEvil
October 06, 2005 at 09:48PM View BBCode
Originally posted by ME
Originally posted by yankeekid
Sadly, most people hate the Yankees more than they hate the Angels or any other team in baseball, or sports for that matter. Why do they hate them? Because their better and at some time have knocked out someones favorite team from the playoffs. Either that or they think its cheap that we're rich. Oh yeah and there are also those people who hate those obnoxious Yankee fans. :)
Don't worry, I hate the Red Sox a little more.
[Edited on 10-6-2005 by ME]
BoSox = UberEvil
skierdude44
skier jr. = your brother... I have no idea who skier 3 is though.
October 06, 2005 at 11:08PM View BBCode
Originally posted by yankeekid
whos skier 2?
skier jr. = your brother... I have no idea who skier 3 is though.
barterer2002
Top ten reasons to hate the Yankees.
10. They have other teams develop players and then when the other team is no longer able to pay them, the Yankees swoop in and grab them in their prime. This has been going on for almost one hundred years (Babe Ruth, Urban Shocker, Allie Reynolds, Roger Maris, Graig Nettles, Dave Winfield, Chuck Knoblach, Alex Rodriguez).
9. The economic system currently (and for 130 years) in place in baseball gives the Yankees a financial advantage that they did not earn and do not deserve. If the financial advantage was based solely upon championships, it could be both deserved and earned but as it is merely an accident of geography, it is not.
8. George Steinbrenner. Although most fans would love to have ownership that cares as much as George, he's still a meddlesome, swarmy low life who stoops so low as to have his own players followed.
7. Derek Jeter still wets the bed.
6. Yankee players tend to be overhyped which has lead to players from the Yankees winning awards and honors without deserving them. (Spud Chandler, Phil Rizzuto, Roger Maris, Elston Howard, Roger Clemens)
5. Part of the test of a fan is being able to get through the down years. For some teams (Boston, Chicago, Chicago) the down years last for generations. For the Yankees, since 1921, the longest playoff drought is 13 seasons (1982-94). Yankee fans have no idea what it is like to go for generations without even sniffing the playoffs. There can be a nobility to a fans suffering that a front runner wouldn't know anything about.
4. Front running fans. Its one thing to be a Yankee fan from New York, there is some basis for that. Yankee fans from places like St. Louis or Houston or Los Angeles with no ties to the city are front runners-the lowest kind of fan. They will usually be fans of the Cowboys and Lakers as well (although some younger ones will be Bulls fans as well). These fans pick their teams based solely upon the probablity of winning and are the carpetbaggers of the sporting world.
4. Assembling the best rotasserie team, one with Randy Johnson, Mike Mussina, Alex Rodriguez, Derek Jeter, Jason Giambi, Jorge Posada, Bernie Williams, Hidecki Matsui and Gary Sheffleld without any regard to salary is unrealistic in 28 of the 30 baseball cities. Paying twice as much as the nearest competitor in salaries is just obnoxious.
3. Jason Giambi and Randy Johnson look stupid clean cut.
2. The entire managerial turnstile, which admittedly has gotten better in the last decade, has bordered on the ridiculous at times. Was Billy Martin a better manager the third, fourth or fifth time around? From 1975 to 1990 the Yankees had in season managerial changes nine times. Bob Lemon twice took the team to the WOrld Series only to be fired mid season the next year. Twice they had three managers in the same year and even won the world series in one of those.
1. They're from New York which is the home of obnoxiousness. New Yorkers tend to have this delusion that it is the greatest city on the planet and that a snarl is a type of acceptable greeting. Machismo, which usually covers other inadequacies, is the greatest currency in the city. They are our neighbors in much the same way white trash rednecks are our neighbors, we'll defend them if attacked by an outsider but reserve the right to smack them down ourselves a little.
3.
October 07, 2005 at 12:02AM View BBCode
Originally posted by yankeekid
Sadly, most people hate the Yankees more than they hate the Angels or any other team in baseball, or sports for that matter. Why do they hate them? Because their better and at some time have knocked out someones favorite team from the playoffs. Either that or they think its cheap that we're rich. Oh yeah and there are also those people who hate those obnoxious Yankee fans. :)
Top ten reasons to hate the Yankees.
10. They have other teams develop players and then when the other team is no longer able to pay them, the Yankees swoop in and grab them in their prime. This has been going on for almost one hundred years (Babe Ruth, Urban Shocker, Allie Reynolds, Roger Maris, Graig Nettles, Dave Winfield, Chuck Knoblach, Alex Rodriguez).
9. The economic system currently (and for 130 years) in place in baseball gives the Yankees a financial advantage that they did not earn and do not deserve. If the financial advantage was based solely upon championships, it could be both deserved and earned but as it is merely an accident of geography, it is not.
8. George Steinbrenner. Although most fans would love to have ownership that cares as much as George, he's still a meddlesome, swarmy low life who stoops so low as to have his own players followed.
7. Derek Jeter still wets the bed.
6. Yankee players tend to be overhyped which has lead to players from the Yankees winning awards and honors without deserving them. (Spud Chandler, Phil Rizzuto, Roger Maris, Elston Howard, Roger Clemens)
5. Part of the test of a fan is being able to get through the down years. For some teams (Boston, Chicago, Chicago) the down years last for generations. For the Yankees, since 1921, the longest playoff drought is 13 seasons (1982-94). Yankee fans have no idea what it is like to go for generations without even sniffing the playoffs. There can be a nobility to a fans suffering that a front runner wouldn't know anything about.
4. Front running fans. Its one thing to be a Yankee fan from New York, there is some basis for that. Yankee fans from places like St. Louis or Houston or Los Angeles with no ties to the city are front runners-the lowest kind of fan. They will usually be fans of the Cowboys and Lakers as well (although some younger ones will be Bulls fans as well). These fans pick their teams based solely upon the probablity of winning and are the carpetbaggers of the sporting world.
4. Assembling the best rotasserie team, one with Randy Johnson, Mike Mussina, Alex Rodriguez, Derek Jeter, Jason Giambi, Jorge Posada, Bernie Williams, Hidecki Matsui and Gary Sheffleld without any regard to salary is unrealistic in 28 of the 30 baseball cities. Paying twice as much as the nearest competitor in salaries is just obnoxious.
3. Jason Giambi and Randy Johnson look stupid clean cut.
2. The entire managerial turnstile, which admittedly has gotten better in the last decade, has bordered on the ridiculous at times. Was Billy Martin a better manager the third, fourth or fifth time around? From 1975 to 1990 the Yankees had in season managerial changes nine times. Bob Lemon twice took the team to the WOrld Series only to be fired mid season the next year. Twice they had three managers in the same year and even won the world series in one of those.
1. They're from New York which is the home of obnoxiousness. New Yorkers tend to have this delusion that it is the greatest city on the planet and that a snarl is a type of acceptable greeting. Machismo, which usually covers other inadequacies, is the greatest currency in the city. They are our neighbors in much the same way white trash rednecks are our neighbors, we'll defend them if attacked by an outsider but reserve the right to smack them down ourselves a little.
3.
FuriousGiorge
Carpetbagger is a funny word, I should use that more often.
October 07, 2005 at 01:02AM View BBCode
Nice. The Yankees have only existed for about 100 years though, not 130.Carpetbagger is a funny word, I should use that more often.
max_fischer
Some of this is right on, but some of it is dead wrong on the facts. I'm a Yankee fan, so I'll enjoy correcting you where necessary, taking issue with you on matters of opinion, and agreeing with you wholeheartedly on occasion.
#10--The latest Yankee dynasty has been built largely on the backs of homegrown talent (Jeter, Pettitte, Rivera, Posada, Bernie). They have definitely taken advantage of the free-agency system over the years, but so have several other teams, most notably Boston and the Mets. The system is bad for baseball, but blaming the Yanks for taking advantage of it has always struck me as strange.
It's really been only very recent that the Yanks have spent big free-agent money on pitchers (they've always stolen hitters), with Mussina and Clemens being prime examples of the success of this strategy and Kevin Brown the failure.
#9--This is just wrong. Markets explain a lot about the relative success of pro sports teams, but not everything. The Yankees have done an outstanding job of commercially exploiting a market that has been far less generous to the Mets. The Cubs, Dodgers, and White Sox also come from huge markets but have not had nearly the financial success that the Yanks have had. The difference really is based largely on the Yanks' success feeding itself--the bandwagoners whom you rightly despise provide the Yanks with their financial edge. It's dumb to assume that the Yanks don't "earn" their financial edge and then turn right around and blame the bandwagoners for hitching on with a consistent winner. The market has to be there, but the winning has to be there too.
#8--Steinbrenner is an indefensible caricature. His only saving grace is that he has been consistently willing to spend the money necessary to win. Some other owners have it but won't spend it because they want to squeeze huge profits out of their franchises. Steinbrenner could sit on his checkbook, but he doesn't. You're right that he's a bastard. But I don't watch the games to see him.
#7--Jeter is overrated. Every intelligent baseball fan has to recognize that.
#6--True for the most part; the media is lazy and Yankee games happen in their backyard or on too many TV broadcasts.
#5--This is just wrong. You say that other teams go for "generations without sniffing the playoffs," but the examples you use all made the playoffs twice during the 1982-1994 Yankee drought period that you cite! During that stretch, which encompassed some of my formative years as a Bomber fan, the Yankees finished with the worst record in the AL once, while every other team in the AL East won the division at least once.
The last decade has been a time of great success for the Yankees, and the Yankees have won so much that it is tiring and even sickening for fans of most other teams. But you're way overstating your case here.
And the backlash hype isn't accounted for here at all. Being a Yankees fan among smart baseball fans means you have to listen to this kind of rant all over the media (I know, I know, cry me a river). The average idiot behind a sports desk knows that he can write every season about how the Yankees are ruining baseball and many of his meatheaded readers will nod their heads without having to think, and yet here is MLB setting attendance records and producing a fairly compelling postseason.
#4--This is right on the money. Fans who pick the Yankees for no compelling reason (other than geography or personal connection) aren't real baseball fans, they're fans of winning. Those kinds of fans are insufferable in any sport.
#4 (again--there are two #4s here, guess you got excited)--Revenue sharing should be implemented immediately (although a salary cap is outrageous). Until it is implemented, the Yankees should be expected to pay their players whatever they can afford. Note that the NHL has just rammed a salary cap down its players' throats and several teams are staying way below the cap and won't be anywhere near competitive. Money is not the only answer as to why the Yanks have had such success over the last ten years, although it has certainly played a huge role.
#3--But they looked so much worse with mullets!
#2--The circus subsided some when Showalter was hired, and then vanished completely when Torre got the job. It's about to start back up again soon I think. But until then, you have to hand it to Torre--he's lasted ten seasons with the most meddlesome owner in sports.
#1--You're dead wrong about NYC. Machismo? That's media hype. NYC is so diverse that it can be all things to all people. I lived there for three years and I believe that it truly is the greatest city in the USA. What U.S. city can compare? Don't say Blacksburg, FG.
I don't expect many people to agree with me. I wish I was a fan of a different team so I wouldn't have to defend my fandom, but my dad has been a Yankee fan since he was a kid, and so I was too. NYC is the only major-league city I've ever lived in (even if it was for a very short time; I also lived for four years in New Jersey).
I enjoyed the 1990 and 1991 seasons, when the Yanks were terrible but strangely loveable. That level of failure will return one day, and when it does, we can both enjoy it again.
October 07, 2005 at 03:31PM View BBCode
Originally posted by barterer2002
Top ten reasons to hate the Yankees.
10. They have other teams develop players and then when the other team is no longer able to pay them, the Yankees swoop in and grab them in their prime. This has been going on for almost one hundred years (Babe Ruth, Urban Shocker, Allie Reynolds, Roger Maris, Graig Nettles, Dave Winfield, Chuck Knoblach, Alex Rodriguez).
9. The economic system currently (and for 130 years) in place in baseball gives the Yankees a financial advantage that they did not earn and do not deserve. If the financial advantage was based solely upon championships, it could be both deserved and earned but as it is merely an accident of geography, it is not.
8. George Steinbrenner. Although most fans would love to have ownership that cares as much as George, he's still a meddlesome, swarmy low life who stoops so low as to have his own players followed.
7. Derek Jeter still wets the bed.
6. Yankee players tend to be overhyped which has lead to players from the Yankees winning awards and honors without deserving them. (Spud Chandler, Phil Rizzuto, Roger Maris, Elston Howard, Roger Clemens)
5. Part of the test of a fan is being able to get through the down years. For some teams (Boston, Chicago, Chicago) the down years last for generations. For the Yankees, since 1921, the longest playoff drought is 13 seasons (1982-94). Yankee fans have no idea what it is like to go for generations without even sniffing the playoffs. There can be a nobility to a fans suffering that a front runner wouldn't know anything about.
4. Front running fans. Its one thing to be a Yankee fan from New York, there is some basis for that. Yankee fans from places like St. Louis or Houston or Los Angeles with no ties to the city are front runners-the lowest kind of fan. They will usually be fans of the Cowboys and Lakers as well (although some younger ones will be Bulls fans as well). These fans pick their teams based solely upon the probablity of winning and are the carpetbaggers of the sporting world.
4. Assembling the best rotasserie team, one with Randy Johnson, Mike Mussina, Alex Rodriguez, Derek Jeter, Jason Giambi, Jorge Posada, Bernie Williams, Hidecki Matsui and Gary Sheffleld without any regard to salary is unrealistic in 28 of the 30 baseball cities. Paying twice as much as the nearest competitor in salaries is just obnoxious.
3. Jason Giambi and Randy Johnson look stupid clean cut.
2. The entire managerial turnstile, which admittedly has gotten better in the last decade, has bordered on the ridiculous at times. Was Billy Martin a better manager the third, fourth or fifth time around? From 1975 to 1990 the Yankees had in season managerial changes nine times. Bob Lemon twice took the team to the WOrld Series only to be fired mid season the next year. Twice they had three managers in the same year and even won the world series in one of those.
1. They're from New York which is the home of obnoxiousness. New Yorkers tend to have this delusion that it is the greatest city on the planet and that a snarl is a type of acceptable greeting. Machismo, which usually covers other inadequacies, is the greatest currency in the city. They are our neighbors in much the same way white trash rednecks are our neighbors, we'll defend them if attacked by an outsider but reserve the right to smack them down ourselves a little.
Some of this is right on, but some of it is dead wrong on the facts. I'm a Yankee fan, so I'll enjoy correcting you where necessary, taking issue with you on matters of opinion, and agreeing with you wholeheartedly on occasion.
#10--The latest Yankee dynasty has been built largely on the backs of homegrown talent (Jeter, Pettitte, Rivera, Posada, Bernie). They have definitely taken advantage of the free-agency system over the years, but so have several other teams, most notably Boston and the Mets. The system is bad for baseball, but blaming the Yanks for taking advantage of it has always struck me as strange.
It's really been only very recent that the Yanks have spent big free-agent money on pitchers (they've always stolen hitters), with Mussina and Clemens being prime examples of the success of this strategy and Kevin Brown the failure.
#9--This is just wrong. Markets explain a lot about the relative success of pro sports teams, but not everything. The Yankees have done an outstanding job of commercially exploiting a market that has been far less generous to the Mets. The Cubs, Dodgers, and White Sox also come from huge markets but have not had nearly the financial success that the Yanks have had. The difference really is based largely on the Yanks' success feeding itself--the bandwagoners whom you rightly despise provide the Yanks with their financial edge. It's dumb to assume that the Yanks don't "earn" their financial edge and then turn right around and blame the bandwagoners for hitching on with a consistent winner. The market has to be there, but the winning has to be there too.
#8--Steinbrenner is an indefensible caricature. His only saving grace is that he has been consistently willing to spend the money necessary to win. Some other owners have it but won't spend it because they want to squeeze huge profits out of their franchises. Steinbrenner could sit on his checkbook, but he doesn't. You're right that he's a bastard. But I don't watch the games to see him.
#7--Jeter is overrated. Every intelligent baseball fan has to recognize that.
#6--True for the most part; the media is lazy and Yankee games happen in their backyard or on too many TV broadcasts.
#5--This is just wrong. You say that other teams go for "generations without sniffing the playoffs," but the examples you use all made the playoffs twice during the 1982-1994 Yankee drought period that you cite! During that stretch, which encompassed some of my formative years as a Bomber fan, the Yankees finished with the worst record in the AL once, while every other team in the AL East won the division at least once.
The last decade has been a time of great success for the Yankees, and the Yankees have won so much that it is tiring and even sickening for fans of most other teams. But you're way overstating your case here.
And the backlash hype isn't accounted for here at all. Being a Yankees fan among smart baseball fans means you have to listen to this kind of rant all over the media (I know, I know, cry me a river). The average idiot behind a sports desk knows that he can write every season about how the Yankees are ruining baseball and many of his meatheaded readers will nod their heads without having to think, and yet here is MLB setting attendance records and producing a fairly compelling postseason.
#4--This is right on the money. Fans who pick the Yankees for no compelling reason (other than geography or personal connection) aren't real baseball fans, they're fans of winning. Those kinds of fans are insufferable in any sport.
#4 (again--there are two #4s here, guess you got excited)--Revenue sharing should be implemented immediately (although a salary cap is outrageous). Until it is implemented, the Yankees should be expected to pay their players whatever they can afford. Note that the NHL has just rammed a salary cap down its players' throats and several teams are staying way below the cap and won't be anywhere near competitive. Money is not the only answer as to why the Yanks have had such success over the last ten years, although it has certainly played a huge role.
#3--But they looked so much worse with mullets!
#2--The circus subsided some when Showalter was hired, and then vanished completely when Torre got the job. It's about to start back up again soon I think. But until then, you have to hand it to Torre--he's lasted ten seasons with the most meddlesome owner in sports.
#1--You're dead wrong about NYC. Machismo? That's media hype. NYC is so diverse that it can be all things to all people. I lived there for three years and I believe that it truly is the greatest city in the USA. What U.S. city can compare? Don't say Blacksburg, FG.
I don't expect many people to agree with me. I wish I was a fan of a different team so I wouldn't have to defend my fandom, but my dad has been a Yankee fan since he was a kid, and so I was too. NYC is the only major-league city I've ever lived in (even if it was for a very short time; I also lived for four years in New Jersey).
I enjoyed the 1990 and 1991 seasons, when the Yanks were terrible but strangely loveable. That level of failure will return one day, and when it does, we can both enjoy it again.
Benne
He was kingjames...
October 07, 2005 at 07:56PM View BBCode
Originally posted by skierdude44
Originally posted by yankeekid
whos skier 2?
skier jr. = your brother... I have no idea who skier 3 is though.
He was kingjames...
barterer2002
1. The Yankees would not be the dominant force they've been for the past decade without the help they've gotten from other team's players who were developed and then unable to afford them. We'll go Wade Boggs, David Cone, John Wettleland, Tino Martinez, Jimmy Key, David Wells, Chuck Knoblauch, Roger Clemens, Mike Mussina, Jason Giambi, Gary Sheffield and Alex Rodriguez. We won't even talk about Hidecki Matsui, Orlando Hernandez or Paul O'Neill at this point. Yes, Williams, Jeter, Pettitte, Posada and Rivera have been key parts of the Yankee dynasty but they were not carried to championships on those backs.
2. I'll agree with you that the Yankees have done a terrific job over the past eighty years of combining a winning team with good marketing, but lets put it this way. If we look at the New York Metro area as being a city of 21 million people, even if we assumed (incorrectly) that it split 50/50 Mets/Yankees (and its obviously much more Yankees than that) that would give the Yankees a base of 10.5 million people from which to draw its fan base. That 10.5 million is larger than any other metro area in the nation except the LA/Anaheim area which holds a little over 16 million (http://geography.about.com/library/weekly/aa010102a.htm) If we split the cities twice represented, then the largest competitor to the Yankees/Mets would be LA with about 8 million with Philadelphia third with 6 million. To say that the Yankees which draw from a metro area almost twice the size of most of its competitors does not gain a significant advantage simply because they've capitalized on it is just wrong.
Understand, I'm not blaming the Yankees for the way the system works, or for capitalizing on how the system works in their favor, I'm merely pointing out why they are hated around the country. You are right that it is not the Yankees fault that they are able to spend twice as much money as any other team and that they did not create the system which allows them to florish, however, its also part of the reason that they are dispised so much.
October 07, 2005 at 09:41PM View BBCode
Max, two points in rebuttal1. The Yankees would not be the dominant force they've been for the past decade without the help they've gotten from other team's players who were developed and then unable to afford them. We'll go Wade Boggs, David Cone, John Wettleland, Tino Martinez, Jimmy Key, David Wells, Chuck Knoblauch, Roger Clemens, Mike Mussina, Jason Giambi, Gary Sheffield and Alex Rodriguez. We won't even talk about Hidecki Matsui, Orlando Hernandez or Paul O'Neill at this point. Yes, Williams, Jeter, Pettitte, Posada and Rivera have been key parts of the Yankee dynasty but they were not carried to championships on those backs.
2. I'll agree with you that the Yankees have done a terrific job over the past eighty years of combining a winning team with good marketing, but lets put it this way. If we look at the New York Metro area as being a city of 21 million people, even if we assumed (incorrectly) that it split 50/50 Mets/Yankees (and its obviously much more Yankees than that) that would give the Yankees a base of 10.5 million people from which to draw its fan base. That 10.5 million is larger than any other metro area in the nation except the LA/Anaheim area which holds a little over 16 million (http://geography.about.com/library/weekly/aa010102a.htm) If we split the cities twice represented, then the largest competitor to the Yankees/Mets would be LA with about 8 million with Philadelphia third with 6 million. To say that the Yankees which draw from a metro area almost twice the size of most of its competitors does not gain a significant advantage simply because they've capitalized on it is just wrong.
Understand, I'm not blaming the Yankees for the way the system works, or for capitalizing on how the system works in their favor, I'm merely pointing out why they are hated around the country. You are right that it is not the Yankees fault that they are able to spend twice as much money as any other team and that they did not create the system which allows them to florish, however, its also part of the reason that they are dispised so much.